tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5013594081496330946.post8755088143690150603..comments2023-03-25T04:53:31.262-07:00Comments on Final Crisis Annotations: Final Crisis #2Douglas Wolkhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10691167073493285913noreply@blogger.comBlogger47125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5013594081496330946.post-42926182043789487792008-10-29T23:21:00.000-07:002008-10-29T23:21:00.000-07:00Someone may have already noted this, but the S on ...Someone may have already noted this, but the S on Overman's shirt on page 9 panel 5 is very reminiscent of the s in the nazi special forces, known as the 'ss' logo. Not being a huge DC fan I could be wrong, but doesn't overman come from a nazi dominated world?jackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10923833020652518266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5013594081496330946.post-20143724428897233782008-08-04T15:59:00.000-07:002008-08-04T15:59:00.000-07:00I'm going to have to go ahead and disagree with al...I'm going to have to go ahead and disagree with all these "Overman" references from Animal Man. The chest symbol is different... why would you think it's Overman?<BR/><BR/>Obviously, it's a "dark side" Superman, as seen in <A HREF="http://comics.org/details.lasso?id=62071" REL="nofollow">Superman: The Dark Side</A>, in which "Metron deflects Superman's rocket to Apokolips, where Darkseid raises the child as his son."<BR/><BR/>This miniseries hasn't been assigned to one of the 52 Earths, like many of the other Elseworlds, as far as I know. Now yet, at least.Crappyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09219135587690011937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5013594081496330946.post-48329992413561194772008-07-03T17:48:00.000-07:002008-07-03T17:48:00.000-07:00And now DC's site says Final Crisis #3 won't hit u...And now DC's site says Final Crisis #3 won't hit until August 6. While their site's been wrong before, this must be the result of an explicit change, so I'm tempted to believe it.<BR/><BR/>So, whoever said #3, congrats?David Uzumerihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12273284254602286534noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5013594081496330946.post-78478039523399069742008-07-03T07:49:00.000-07:002008-07-03T07:49:00.000-07:00A note on tie-in scheduling: The August Final Cris...A note on tie-in scheduling: The August Final Crisis checklist in this week's books lists "Final Crisis: Superman Beyond 3-D" without an issue number (unlike the others there), which makes me think Morrison's original wishes were honored and it's now one issue. Which is good, because honestly, I'm looking forward to it possibly more than any other part of this series.David Uzumerihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12273284254602286534noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5013594081496330946.post-47363692517038812292008-06-30T21:36:00.000-07:002008-06-30T21:36:00.000-07:00Now you might say that Hal has already been identi...Now you might say that Hal has already been identified as the attacker. Of course we think he's being framed... but what if John really did see the true face of his assailant?fcfanatichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12926354797807162523noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5013594081496330946.post-87798936756033527382008-06-30T21:08:00.000-07:002008-06-30T21:08:00.000-07:00I was trying to figure out why so many people were...I was trying to figure out why so many people were having trouble with the sequence where John Stewart is attacked and the aftermath. It seems pretty straightforward, and yet... there are so many odd things about those parts.<BR/><BR/>Then it hit me: John's *real* assailant...<BR/><BR/>A character with a strong visual representation at the start of our story... one who was oddly not responding to the call of duty while a deicide was in progress... late because he was in a deep and dreamless sleep (like he was after John was attacked)... and had a weird scar on his face???<BR/><BR/>What could have got into him? Not Parallax...<BR/><BR/>Maybe a certain evil god? A prominent one we haven't seen yet? A sadist who would get off on spiking out someone's eyes? <BR/><BR/>Huh? Huh?<BR/><BR/>(I think someone else already made a joke about this actually being the more secretive and invasive summer event.)fcfanatichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12926354797807162523noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5013594081496330946.post-15408327485002169342008-06-30T08:43:00.000-07:002008-06-30T08:43:00.000-07:00Page 21.I don't think it's been addressed, but I b...Page 21.<BR/><BR/>I don't think it's been addressed, but I believe that after fighting John (which happened off-panel), Kraken (Granny)'s right arm was removed. She replaced it with a GL construct, which is what Batman notices when he asks what's wrong.<BR/><BR/>I noticed this on a re-read after wondering how Batman figured out that Kraken is having trouble.Squashuahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14665419613561138127noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5013594081496330946.post-65441907528263198512008-06-30T01:04:00.000-07:002008-06-30T01:04:00.000-07:00The Earth-10 Nazi Superman appeared in Countdown t...The Earth-10 Nazi Superman appeared in Countdown to Adventure #2, although I seem to remember a swastika on his chest.universaladdresshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14786707908965315092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5013594081496330946.post-63520723863566174172008-06-29T21:36:00.000-07:002008-06-29T21:36:00.000-07:00I, that's a great catch--thank you!drmouse and t, ...I, that's a great catch--thank you!<BR/><BR/>drmouse and t, thanks for the Green Lantern corrections, and thank you too, gary, for pointing out the "crimson" thing.Douglas Wolkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10691167073493285913noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5013594081496330946.post-56999222640425165332008-06-29T20:43:00.000-07:002008-06-29T20:43:00.000-07:00The astrological sign for Libra appears to be the ...The astrological sign for Libra appears to be the same symbol appearing on Darkseid in J.G. Jones' new design.<BR/><BR/>Perhaps another indication that Darkseid is, in fact, in everyone as Orion said. Darkseid's evil influence being as ubiquitous as the doctrine of sin in Christian Theology.<BR/><BR/>Perhaps not.<BR/><BR/>As always, thanks for the annotations.anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03224100245539599451noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5013594081496330946.post-65320457349474104652008-06-29T17:56:00.000-07:002008-06-29T17:56:00.000-07:00Pg. 15: Panel 3: Hal is responsible for Space Sec...<I>Pg. 15: Panel 3: <BR/>Hal is responsible for Space Sector 2814, which does indeed include the city-in-space Heliopolis, according to this page--can somebody give me an issue reference, please?--as well as M'Brai, seen in GREEN LANTERN #153 in 1982, and Athmoora, seen in GREEN LANTERN #16 in 1962.</I> <BR/><BR/>Heliopolis appeared in GREEN LANTERN 2nd series # 166 August 1983.<BR/>For more up-to-date GL sector info try: http://glcorps.dcuguide.com/_sector.php<BR/><BR/>(Granted, I didn't update the Helipolis info on the GLCWP - yet)<BR/><BR/>For the most recent version of the GLC Web Page go here: http://glcorps.dcuguide.com/index.php<BR/><BR/><I>Pg. 17: <BR/>Opto309V first appeared in 2007's 52 #41, which implied that he's the other Green Lantern besides Mogo assigned to Sector 2261... although GREEN LANTERN CORPS #12, also published in 2007, suggested that Mogo's partner is Bzzd. Anyone want to clear this up?</I><BR/><BR/>Bzzd is Mogo's partner... Opto never was. Confirmed in GL/SINESTRO CORPS SECRET FILESDRMOUSE2814https://www.blogger.com/profile/10355772479557304470noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5013594081496330946.post-61824021978132021042008-06-29T01:45:00.000-07:002008-06-29T01:45:00.000-07:00I also note that the description of BSA in the FC ...<I>I also note that the description of BSA in the FC Sketchbook mentions Sunfire. Whoops: wrong company!</I><BR/><BR/>Good catch; I assume Morrison meant <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunburst_%28comics%29" REL="nofollow">Sunburst</A>, who appeared in an issue of his <I>Doom Patrol</I>.Will Stapleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05102456593495895955noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5013594081496330946.post-78812332486243325362008-06-28T18:28:00.000-07:002008-06-28T18:28:00.000-07:00On Megayakuza and regarding Don Macpherson's comme...On Megayakuza and regarding Don Macpherson's comment above:<BR/><BR/>It occurred to me that if I was reading FC without being a comic fan but having access to pop culture, I’d definitely think that Megayakuza was a sly reference to Marvel’s Iron Man, especially looking at the second panel on page 5 and the method of his death on page 6.<BR/><BR/>So maybe it is a dig at DC's competitor and their flagship summer film, but then again, there’s a lot of people in robot suits in comics. No matter when this was written/drawn, Morrison and Jones would have been well aware that FC #2 would come out around Iron Man's release.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5013594081496330946.post-35961378915239271622008-06-28T17:06:00.000-07:002008-06-28T17:06:00.000-07:00Hi, first time commenter.Little question: Is it co...Hi, first time commenter.<BR/><BR/>Little question: Is it common for Superman to say "superhuman" as in "superhuman community" instead of Metahuman? Especially since Morrison should be quite familiar with this term thanks to his White Martian saga...Cesarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09018945307816681488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5013594081496330946.post-61422372156766564322008-06-28T09:53:00.000-07:002008-06-28T09:53:00.000-07:00Who could add any answers at this late date? Keep...Who could add any answers at this late date? Keep up the great work!<BR/><BR/>I still have -questions-, but I'm sure most will be answered by the end.<BR/><BR/>1) If the Apokolips gods come back with their spirits inhabiting the living on Earth, how do the New Genesis gods come back? Have we already seen a similar possession, but just not known it? Will possession be their point of re-entry or will they use some other 'door'? Is it possible they would instead, being the other-side of Darkseid and Company, possess bodies of the -dead-?<BR/><BR/>2) How does the Caped Crusader escape Granny's gi-normous clutches?! Will this be the end of the Dark Knight, or will he get out in time to R.I.P. in his own book? Stay tuned, same you-know-when...Garrie Burrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08655002725754446947noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5013594081496330946.post-66006972645490433122008-06-28T08:06:00.000-07:002008-06-28T08:06:00.000-07:00Page 9, Panel 5 and "crimson" might allude to the ...Page 9, Panel 5 <I>and "crimson" might allude to the Crimson Avenger, one of the very earliest DC superheroes</I> . . . or maybe the red skies that seem to come along with every Crisis?Garyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16519816290322068250noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5013594081496330946.post-56181263027215637362008-06-27T09:45:00.000-07:002008-06-27T09:45:00.000-07:00Opto309V's sector is 2260 Mogo's is 2261Opto309V's sector is 2260 Mogo's is 2261Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5013594081496330946.post-43146203234320665922008-06-27T08:39:00.000-07:002008-06-27T08:39:00.000-07:00Re: John Stewarts ring, it might be possible to re...Re: John Stewarts ring, it might be possible to read the scene as showing John using enough will power to override the Alpha Lantern's shutdown of his ring in between the last two panels.smurphhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04939470621018504006noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5013594081496330946.post-56930903364689438302008-06-27T06:49:00.000-07:002008-06-27T06:49:00.000-07:00I noticed something cool about the covers. I have...I noticed something cool about the covers. I have the "red columns" covers. If you do too, compare issues 1 & 2. On #2, the font/lettering is slightly distressed, and the hue of the red columns is slightly darker. I'm thinking those columns will be black by the time this is all over.<BR/><BR/>I'm kind of hoping that Morticoccus isn't in this story (the Earth seems to have enough problems). On the other hand, there probably was some point in Countdown to Karate Kid bringing it to the present from the Legion's time. God knows that point was unclear in Countdown. So I'm thinking we'll see more about this in LO3W.<BR/><BR/>Speaking of Karate Kid, check out Rising Sun's outfit.<BR/><BR/>About SS:Mister Miracle... some interesting notes <A HREF="http://www.barbelith.com/faq/index.php/Mister_Miracle" REL="nofollow">here</A>. I wasn't crazy about it at the time (seemed to have the least to do with the Sheeda story), but it's a fun re-read in light of what's going on now.fcfanatichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12926354797807162523noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5013594081496330946.post-36053244204286285342008-06-27T00:03:00.000-07:002008-06-27T00:03:00.000-07:00Dom: Good catch!Don: Thanks for the notes! The kid...Dom: Good catch!<BR/><BR/>Don: Thanks for the notes! The kid is definitely Kamandi--he's wearing the same outfit as he was last issue, even. <BR/><BR/>ocraM: yes, SEVEN SOLDIERS: MISTER MIRACLE is totally in continuity, as far as I can tell--why wouldn't it be? Be more specific about what you don't get, and I can try to explain as well as I understand it.Douglas Wolkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10691167073493285913noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5013594081496330946.post-81083324873587030882008-06-26T21:38:00.000-07:002008-06-26T21:38:00.000-07:00hey pleasesomebody can explain to me WTF with that...hey please<BR/><BR/>somebody can explain to me WTF with that Mr. Miracle? <BR/><BR/>I just don't get it. That Super Soldier mini series is in continuity?<BR/><BR/>greetins from PeruocraMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03077709187848663142noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5013594081496330946.post-56324677345873580772008-06-26T20:54:00.000-07:002008-06-26T20:54:00.000-07:00Page 1:The Stormtrooper dude standing behind the J...Page 1:<BR/>The Stormtrooper dude standing behind the Japanese Mary Marvel has something adorning his armor. I believe it's the wing-like gear that adorned the Black Canary's long-forgotten costume of the late '80s (non-fishnets, with headband).<BR/><BR/>I'm surprised you didn't make note of the Bam-Pow shirt in the foreground, a clear nod to the campy Batman TV show of the 1960s.<BR/><BR/>Pages 2 & 3:<BR/>Rising Sun was once a member of the Global Guardians.<BR/><BR/>The divide between the old-school heroes (represented by Rising Sun) and the new, cool, young heroes mirrors a central theme in Alex Ross and Mark Waid's <I>Kingdom Come</I>.<BR/><BR/>Page 5:<BR/>Megayakuza's armor seems to boast qualities reminiscent of Marvel heroes, such as Iron Man's repulsors and Wolverine's claws.<BR/><BR/>Page 6:<BR/>Note the men's room symbol has a cape on it.<BR/><BR/>Page 12:<BR/>The character you guess might be Power Girl could also be the recently resurrection Ice. Her hair does seem to be white, and she was a Justice League member under J'Onn.<BR/><BR/>Page 14:<BR/>Panel 5 -- The "for sale" sign on the abandoned strip club would seem to foreshadow that the Human Flame is about to pay a steeper price than he expected.<BR/><BR/>Page 17:<BR/>John Stewart's use of miniature construction equipment to examine the crime scene no doubt stems from his profession as an architect and his experience on construction sites.<BR/><BR/>Page 24:<BR/>Panel 4 -- The kid pleading to Turpin looks exactly like Kamandi.<BR/><BR/>Page 25: Simyan & Mokkari seem to be crafting beast-men, half animals, half men. Walking, talking animal men were the dominant species in Kamandi's post-apocalyptic future.<BR/><BR/>Page 26:<BR/>Panel 3 - Jimmy's screensaver/desktop image is a Jim Lee image from his run on on <I>Superman</I> with Brian Azzarello.Don MacPhersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04330929057393593050noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5013594081496330946.post-26807906220581810482008-06-26T20:17:00.000-07:002008-06-26T20:17:00.000-07:00I'm getting more of this vibe from the Wonder Woma...I'm getting more of <A HREF="http://www.mamegyorai.co.jp/net/main/item_detail/item_detail.aspx?item=139035" REL="nofollow">this vibe</A> from the Wonder Woman on page 1.<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://i25.tinypic.com/ngomyo.jpg" REL="nofollow">Here's</A> a (giant sized) Morticoccus from Countdown.fcfanatichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12926354797807162523noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5013594081496330946.post-30396602382895712712008-06-26T18:29:00.000-07:002008-06-26T18:29:00.000-07:00On page 26 panel 3, Jimmy Olsen has the cover to S...On page 26 panel 3, Jimmy Olsen has the cover to Superman 204 as his screensaver.<BR/><BR/>http://www.dynamicforces.com/images/superman204.jpgDom Suttonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10941146437888338277noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5013594081496330946.post-29062105791745700452008-06-26T17:27:00.000-07:002008-06-26T17:27:00.000-07:00On page one, the lady in the Wonder Woman costume ...On page one, the lady in the Wonder Woman costume ... well, the pose (and the body paint) are lifted from <A HREF="http://bp1.blogger.com/_tzUNthP8u88/R6luEqZ0eLI/AAAAAAAABWs/a2XgmQMIlak/s1600-h/tfallon-797836.jpg" REL="nofollow">here</A>.<BR/><BR/>I'm really embarrassed to be the one to identify that.Gabehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04143549433130628923noreply@blogger.com